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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 1:06 pm 
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It's great though, isn't it. After 15 years, I never tire of firing guns.


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 1:09 pm 
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My groupings ain't much better bro
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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 1:20 pm 
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I don't like the monitor next to the firing point, that would make you chase your zero all over the place.
Best to pick a point of aim and concentrate on getting a consistent group.

Darkchild

Edit: also, sexy outfit. You could be a badguy in a 1990s action movie. The kind where Will Smith kills you. It's kind of how I dress all the time.


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 1:42 pm 
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Darkchild130 wrote:
It's great though, isn't it. After 15 years, I never tire of firing guns.


After today I think I understand the appeal of rifles a lot better than before. Personally I don't know how you fucking tolerated testing these damn things on a range every damn day. You must have shoulders of steel or something.


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 1:53 pm 
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I once did 8 battlefield missions on one machine gun (FN MAG) in one day, to stress test some camouflage paint.
One battlefield mission consists of firing 8000 rounds over a couple hours in a very specific way.

64,000 rounds, from sunrise to sunset, one gun, four barrels. My boss was literally standing over me pouring bottles of oil onto it to keep it firing (that's why we love machineguns, they're tough as hell)
My shoulder was black with bruising for about two weeks, but you get used to it. The paint held up really well.

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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 2:17 pm 
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I got bruised too, but it's just skin. You gotta press the buttstock into your shoulder, so it doesn't get much room for movement, at least that's what works for me.

Also we gotta find more people to shoot with. Or we start our own shooting gallery. With strippers as instructors. I mean, why not combine two fine pasttimes into one?


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 6:00 pm 
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Darkchild130 wrote:
My boss was literally standing over me pouring bottles of oil


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 12th, 2015, 6:25 pm 
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I can think of nothing less jizz worthy than being repeatedly kicked in the shoulder several hundred times a minute, for hours, whilst simultaneously being scalded by droplets of burning hot oil and carbon flakes.

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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 13th, 2015, 2:30 am 
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this explains basically EVERYTHING about Contractor 1&2


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 13th, 2015, 2:59 am 
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Fuck that, I basically just gave you the entire plot for Contractor 3!

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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 16th, 2015, 10:47 pm 
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I'm probably the only Gausswerker who's never fired a gun.

What means this phrase, "Chasing your zero"?


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 17th, 2015, 2:00 am 
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Everyone's eyes are different, so to "zero" one's sights (which encompasses all forms of optics and open sights) means to fire tight groups at a predetermined range, making miniscule adjustments to your sights until all shots are on target. For example, at 100m with the British service rifle, the MPI (mean point of impact) should be 90mm above the point of aim (because ballistics).
You cannot see your fall of shot at this range, you just pick a point, fire your five round group, then go see how good it is.
It is vitally important that your group be as tight as possible (100mm group size at 100 metres is the bare minimum) because it shows the true skill of the firer, and allows for quicker/easier adjustments.
If you have unzeroed sights (like at a civilian firing range) and you're not a trained shot (like Dudeglove) you will look at that little monitor, see where your shot lands, and try and adjust to hit where you think is best on target, as opposed to keeping the exact same point of aim regardless of impact.
This does not form a true group, and is known as "Chasing the zero"

Groups can be moved by zeroing, this cannot be done if you don't have a true group.

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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 17th, 2015, 4:22 am 
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FWIW, when I was firing the SVD, the monitor wasn't working in my lane, and instead the instructor was looking down a large telescope thingy that was kinda cool (though when it was Aleks' turn, the instructor switched lanes to use the monitor).

You can blame it being all over the place mostly due to the fact that I do indeed suck, but partly due to the fact that I was trying to get used to sitting/standing properly and as such I was constantly shifting about (feet flat on the floor, not tucked under, stock right up to the... whatever it's called where shoulder and chest meet, making sure not to put my fucking face right up against the scope, OWW THOSE CASINGS ARE HOT WHY ARE MY SLEEVES ROLLED UP FUCK FUCK, etc.)

The previous time I was at a range, the instructor was very much safety conscious, which is more of a thing with pistols because there are so many instances of retards breaking their thumbs - hell, one of my friends nearly did it in front of me - because they're holding the pistol in a stupid way (hint, don't put your thumb behind the slide). Despite their size, rifles seem far less of a hassle to get going with than pistols do.

However, one thing I didn't particularly like was how the magazine of the SVD had a sort of double-beveled lip to it, meaning you had to insert it in two/three steps, whereas the AK was more straightforward. Also, when we were starting I jumped out of my damn seat, even with ear things on, because Aleks started firing first while the SVD was getting explained to me and the fucking AK was LOUD. Old dude smirked and was all like "You'll get used to it".


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 17th, 2015, 5:13 am 
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You'll find that instructors are more on top of safety with pistols because they have a short profile and it is easier for noobs to accidentally shoot other people on the range.
Pistols are scary for instructors, when put in the hands of beginners. All it takes is for one fucker to forget about muzzle awareness and seconds later somebody is dead.

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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 17th, 2015, 6:54 am 
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That old guy was cool. His way of speaking was very intelligent, like he was using words that aren't for us working-class ivans. Also he was all wiry and toned. Said he was shooting for sport, but I don't really believe he's "only a civilian".


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 21st, 2015, 4:27 am 
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Look at this little beauty from the cold war, Madsen LAR.


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 21st, 2015, 8:05 am 
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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 21st, 2015, 8:23 am 
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The muscular Russian guy in that video is called Alex Kovas and he's a fucking furry. I fucking can't stand furries.

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PostPosted: April 21st, 2015, 11:01 am 
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Stirling submachine gun with the Australian SAS in vietnam, with an integrated suppressor and grenade launcher. Maximum win.


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 21st, 2015, 11:15 am 
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Why is the magazine sideways?


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: April 21st, 2015, 11:20 am 
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It was a natural evolution of the Sten gun, which was a piece of shit designed during the second world war. The mags would not feed properly when vertical, so they turned them on their side. The Stirling didn't have that problem, but it kept the ergonomics to reduce training time.

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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: August 18th, 2015, 1:38 pm 
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Pimp my SVD. Lolita style.


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: August 18th, 2015, 4:57 pm 
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i'd go wtf but i'm pretty sure i saw a Hello Kitty AK somewhere once.


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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: August 27th, 2015, 9:07 am 
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I fucking love Gyrojets.



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 Post subject: Re: gun chat
PostPosted: August 27th, 2015, 9:34 am 
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but are the bullets not enormously expensive?


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